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# Alan Katz: Forty Years of Getting Paid to Be Funny
- URL: https://lifeonwords.com/alan-katz-forty-years-of-getting-paid-to-be-funny/
- Published: 2026-08-19T09:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-09-05T06:16:43.000Z
- Description: Alan Katz has written more than 50 books and spent five years writing for The Rosie O'Donnell Show. He grew up in a family of shoe-store owners and teachers and announced early that he'd be a writer — his father's response was that as a writer, you are your own merchandise. We talk about…
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Alan Katz has written more than 50 books and spent five years writing for *The Rosie O'Donnell Show*. He grew up in a family of shoe-store owners and teachers and announced early that he'd be a writer — his father's response was that as a writer, you are your own merchandise. We talk about what that life has cost, the bullies who taught him to write on deadline, and why he tells kids a joke at someone else's expense is never worth it.

**Key topics**

- "You are your own merchandise": the cost of a career where next year is never guaranteed
- Comedy writing in advertising — Pepsi, McDonald's, and a musical about Sperry computers starring Kirk Douglas
- Writing song parodies on the 5am train for a show that aired at 10
- How his daughter's dinner-table question became *Take Me Out of the Bathtub*
- Writing jokes for Henny Youngman at $7 apiece, in high school
- The agent who said write only for television, and why he refused
- What happened to the sitcom
- Kids who say they don't read for pleasure

**Timestamps**  
01:25 A family of retail and teachers, and a kid who wanted to write  
02:12 The costs: a best seller one year, no idea the next  
03:17 How the *Rosie O'Donnell Show* job happened  
04:19 Broadway, comedy, sitcoms — why their sensibilities lined up  
05:15 Comedy writing in advertising, and a musical about computers  
06:22 The Scholastic joke books  
07:01 Writing parodies on the 5:30am train  
08:03 Simone's question at dinner  
08:26 Simon & Schuster was across the street  
09:28 What he'd be doing if none of it had worked  
10:40 *Got Your Nose*, and the packages kids send him  
11:30 *Two Sides to Everything*, with his wife Rose  
13:12 A typical Tuesday, and Jerry the ventriloquist dummy  
13:50 "Turn the Tub Around," and what his kids are proudest of  
14:52 What people get wrong about a comedy writer's life  
16:00 The text chain with Dan Gutman and Peter Lerangis  
16:51 Whether his kids thought he was funny  
18:02 Keeping a notebook — writers observe  
19:15 *Awesome Achievers*, and never joking at anyone's expense  
20:56 A funny kid, and the bullies who demanded jokes  
22:04 Writing for Henny Youngman at $7 a joke  
22:38 How live TV taught him to write under pressure  
24:24 What he wouldn't tell his younger self  
25:26 Mildred Feinsilver, and three years chasing a sitcom in LA  
26:56 Is he a good boss to himself?  
27:53 Soupy Sales, and why jealousy isn't the word  
28:48 The part luck played, and the advice he gives his son  
30:00 The most unglamorous thing he did this week  
31:29 Advice for someone starting out — and stay away from AI  
33:31 What happened to the sitcom  
35:15 Lie-ographies: laughing your way into the facts  
38:17 Two stories about his name  
41:56 What's next, and 27 ways to tell a Barbie story  
45:07 Has it been worth it?  
46:29 Kids who don't read for pleasure  
49:14 Keep reading, keep writing, keep being kind

### Books mentioned

[![Take Me Out of the Bathtub and Other Silly Dilly Songs](https://lifeonwords.com/content/images/2026/08/cover-9780689829031-5.jpg)](https://bookshop.org/a/94291/9780689829031?ref=lifeonwords.com)[Take Me Out of the Bathtub and Other Silly Dilly Songs](https://bookshop.org/a/94291/9780689829031?ref=lifeonwords.com)Alan Katz

[![Got Your Nose!](https://lifeonwords.com/content/images/2026/08/cover-9780063025042-5.jpg)](https://bookshop.org/a/94291/9780063025042?ref=lifeonwords.com)[Got Your Nose!](https://bookshop.org/a/94291/9780063025042?ref=lifeonwords.com)Alan Katz

[![Awesome Achievers in Science Super and Strange Facts about 12 Almost Famous History Makers](https://lifeonwords.com/content/images/2026/08/cover-9780762463381-3.jpg)](https://bookshop.org/a/94291/9780762463381?ref=lifeonwords.com)[Awesome Achievers in Science Super and Strange Facts about 12 Almost Famous History Makers](https://bookshop.org/a/94291/9780762463381?ref=lifeonwords.com)Alan Katz

[![Awesome Achievers in Technology Super and Strange Facts about 12 Almost Famous History Makers](https://lifeonwords.com/content/images/2026/08/cover-9780762463367-3.jpg)](https://bookshop.org/a/94291/9780762463367?ref=lifeonwords.com)[Awesome Achievers in Technology Super and Strange Facts about 12 Almost Famous History Makers](https://bookshop.org/a/94291/9780762463367?ref=lifeonwords.com)Alan Katz